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This Islamic Apologist is talking nonsense.

Suppose I walk down Main Street, naked and beautiful (as the human form is), arm-in-arm with my boy-friend and girl-friend, and we kiss and caress each other to the point of ecstasy.

This does not give some frustrated, monotheistic nutjob the right to assault us.

If you cannot handle the erotic in life, that is your problem. If you use neurotic anti-eroticism as a pretext for controlling people, you are a totalitarian.

Regards, andrea

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We need robust re-assertion of secular, humanist public values. Deportation of non-citizens is no-problem. Do it. Trickier are the rights of nationals.

However, Islamists have thrown down the gauntlet. If the tough choice for libertarians is between

(i) growth of murderous fascistic movements, or

(ii) imposition of tests of allegiance to democratic constitutional government – Secular Test Acts (so to speak) – on pain of loss of citizenship

then I’ll vote for (ii)

x andrea the patriot

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Dear zizoubilly,

At 2:45 we hear “that the believing women are obedient to their husbands, and they guard, in their husband’s absence, their chastity.”

Do you agree that this obviously sounds like patriarchal domination of one half of humanity by the other, dressed up as an unquestionable moral injunction?

In contrast, in the Book of Andrea, we are all divinely inspired, romantic-erotic beings. First, there are no divine beings, and monogamy is perverse and neurotic.

Second, we should use our heavenly capacity to show affection and love for each other. One person might be a genetic parent of my child (I speak hypothetically), another a regular lover. Another might be a good looking person picked-up at a night-club. Some lovers might be “women”, some “men”; some natal-intersex or trans; some (who really see the light) dismissive of concepts of sex and gender.

This philosophy, I politely submit, is vastly better than the Islamic Ideology.

Regards, andrea

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doedicurus

I’d be very surprised if this woman isn’t a lesbian.

andreaandrewmilne

Dear gOdip,

Lovely to see those dangerously inspired eyes again. Don’t care which (alternating) personality is behind them.

“…Which is why I make these videos, because I have the time. Well, I don’t have the time, I’m just procrastinating. Hi, I’m Harvey Cutting-Into-My-Own-Time.”

Ha, ha, You are a fuuuuuuuuuucking gifted artist.

BTW, can’t agree with doediurus. Do people still think with those categories, based on sexual-dimorphism, and static sexual orientation?

I’d be very surprised if you weren’t some combo (two or more) of:

– poly
– bi
– sex-n-gender reb
– androgynous
– trans

Says s/he, with her fishing rod out, like on oriental sage by the pond, angling for responses. Don’t be coy!

Oh f*ck, there I go again, holding conversations with myself in the guise of conducting a conversation on YT.

Actually, for the avoidance of doubt, as my more boring colleagues often write (those who also have to earn a living), I’m not wanting identifying details. It’s your life.

But when all is said and done,

♥o♥o♥o♥o♥ andrea (straight from my heart)

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photonexp

vibrant living creature that is your freedom ENDS when u step onto the others freedom u want to tell ur opinion u tell it in a good manner if u dont have but the insults keep it for ur self my friend
yea we are open to discuss our very pillars and bases of islam and in respectful way u start insulting our prophet or islam then we are closed and outta her
may peace be upon u

andreaandrewmilne

Dear photonexp,

Explain, SVP, why the foundations of the Islamic Ideology should be discussed politely, as opposed to mocked and ridiculed? Scientists, for instance, do not normally scream and shout like babies when their theories are mercilessly criticised, yet their conjectures have lot more justification than the claims of the Islamic Ideology. In contrast, we read in Bukhari Hadith Vol 5, Bk 58, No 236 that Mohammed liked raping a 9yr child. Sounds obviously morally wrong to me.

So, I have three questions:

(i) as the ever-wise Victimless Criminal puts it, the Islamic Ideology claims that believing in its truth and not vigorously criticising it, has higher moral value than robust freedom of expression. Why is this true? Try advancing a non-circular argument. I do not want a quote from the Quran saying the Quran is indubitable. And please try avoiding the cheap irrationalist dodge of saying all arguments are circular, which often means debate is pointless.

(ii) freedom of conscience means you are at liberty to hold beliefs in private, vigorously express those beliefs in public, likewise congregate with others, build centres of religious worship (etc). But, equally, others are free to mock, ridicule and despise your beliefs, esp if the content of those beliefs is tyrannical, though even if your beliefs were innocuous, others would be quite at liberty to deride them. Do you agree? If not, why not?

(iii) tell me, succinctly (500 to 2000chr) (a) what are some central tenets of the Islamic Ideology – moral, political, scientific; and (b) how you know they are true. In the same way that I know St Pancras Station is on the Euston Road is factually correct; or I know that it is patently morally wrong to stone someone to death for making love with a person of the same sex.

I recommend not replying on evasive lines such as “If you knew the real Islam, you would know it was true.”…

Oh, and for me, if I see another person dressed head to foot in black, it is as much as saying (a) that person and I are second-class citizens in a land of sexual apartheid, and (b) we are not mistresses of our romantic and erotic life, but are instead the property of another person (who probably has a tickly unattractive beard). I’m not going to stay silent in the face of such nonsense.

Your call, and I look forward to some rational answers

Regards, andrea

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When Debs, Chris and Co. compose Rapture, it’s one of those revolutionary points in art, like Wagner’s chromaticism in Tristan. Or Schönberg in Verklärte Nacht. Or Stravinski in Le Sacre. Just pure genius, and an expansion of the language of music. ♥andrea♥

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andreaandrewmilne

Is Sharia Law compatible with democracy? Now thats a deep one, as the actress said to the bishop.

Multiple choice paper:

(i) do beheaded mice still squeak?

(ii) do 50% of the population who have only half the inheritance rights and half the worth as witnesses, still have full equal standing under a proper system of law?

(iii) did a democratic government in the Weimar Republic vote for emergency enabling powers to established the Nazi regime?

Clue: Islamofascism = Gleichschaltung

 

 4:101 “The disbelievers are an open enemy to you.”

 9:5 “Slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.”

 9:29 “Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah.”

 9:123 “Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you.”

 28:86 “Never be a helper to the disbelievers.”

 sahirdonsocomeon

 cOULD YOU ALSO POST THE VERSE BEFORE !!!

 andreaandrewmilne

 Dear sahirdonsocomeon,

 So, your position is that the additional verses from the Quran would somehow justify these obnoxious injunctions? Since you asked, here’s the well-respected Pickthal transalation for 9.028-030

 “009.028 O ye who believe! The idolaters only are unclean. So let them not come near the Inviolable Place of Worship after this their year. If ye fear poverty (from the loss of their merchandise) Allah shall preserve you of His bounty if He will. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise….

 009.029 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low…..

 009.030 And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they! ”

 The language is unambiguous. So the indubitable commands of your particular fantasy deity (ie Mohammeds thoughts projected onto an imaginary being) are to fight against anyone who does not believe your particular collection of political and ethical principles, until they pay the Jizya tax, or are dead, or have converted to the Islamic Ideology (more fool them)….

 …Or perhaps you wish to say that Allah does not exist (obviosuly true)? Or that the Quran is a set of Satanic verses (your logical problem)? Or that in any case, the Quran is a textbook of conquistadorial hatred (also plainly true)?

 Take your pick of escape routes, my dear fellow sentient being. x andrea.

 you2448

 Now you tell us … A Man shagging a Man … how would democracy deal with that … then a Man shagging a Monkey like you …. would that also be covered and deemed as a personal freedom … or no ….. !!! now you go find yourself an escape goat but don’t shag it even though it may be permissible under democratic law. !!! hehehehe

 sahirdonsocomeon

 009.006
YUSUFALI: If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.
PICKTHAL: And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not.

 sahirdonsocomeon

 I believe you are a sensible person who wants to talk and know the truth please if you look at Islam with out giving your judgment that Allah( meaning God) Does not exist .i don’t care if he exists or not all I know is that the real system of Islam if followed truly can not lead to disappointment and no I am not trying to change the subject here I will give you your answer here again please quote your verses in context the verses before say: 009.001 to onwards.

 andreaandrewmilne

 Dear sahirdonsocomeon, I know my standards of argument can be lax, but someone who says:

 (i) s/he donesn’t care if the god-thing exists or not,

 and then says

 (ii) if the real system of Islam is followed, it cannot lead to disappointment,

 must have bubble-gum instead of a sense of logical consistency. Unless they are more ironical than the average Islamic propagandist on YT. But since irony and blind faith tend to also be incompatible, I guess your an unbeliever either way. x andrea

 hitchwatch

 During the Islamic Golden Age, classical Islamic law may have influenced the development of common law,[3] and also influenced the development of several civil law institutions.[4]

 andreaandrewmilne

 There was a Golden Islamic Age? Perhaps in Mogul India. True, I have walked around the walls and terraces of the Alhambra, embracing a fine-looking creature, and gazed across Granadan lands of ravishing beauty. Indeed, I watched one night in the theatre a performance of a musical version of Lorcas time in New York. “May” have influenced? Such a weasel word. In the same way that trial by ordeal, or the ducking stool, may have influenced contemporary rules of evidence and testimony? x andrea

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